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Wednesday, August 13, 2025

372 Interpreting the Time

    (Note: This blog entry is based on the text for “Interpreting the Time”, originally shared on August 13, 2025. It was the 372nd  video for our YouTube Channel, Streams of Living Water (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCB7KnYS1bpHKaL2OseQWCnw), co-produced with my wife, Rev. Sally Welch.)

   How do we interpret the present time? It’s what Jesus expects of us, but does the question itself imply that times have meaning? Or don’t they? Prepare to have your mind blown!

   What is the time?

   Time is measured by a 12-hour system or a 24-hour one, in digital or analog devices. Time might be multi-dimensional as in three Quantum dimensions (or ”scales”) of time, or only one.

   Groucho Marx, the anarchist comedian, once said, “Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana?” Does time follow a straight line, or is it a series of cycles?

   Can we live in anything but the present, and then the present goes away forever? Or, if God is eternal, and Christians live in the relationship with God for which human being were created, do we not also live in a relationship with every Christian who has ever lived or will ever live, in our common relationship with God? Beyond time?

   How do we interpret our time, these times, but not let them define us?

   There are many ways we can describe time, and they are mostly mind-stretching, but that’s not what Jesus is asking us to do in the Gospel reading that will be shared in the vast majority of churches in the world this coming Sunday, Luke 12:49-56.

   What Jesus is expecting us to do is even more mind-blowing. Jesus is asking us to understand the meaning of our time. To interpret it.

   I will preach for Pastor David Lin’s ordination this coming Saturday, and again at Trinity Faith Lutheran Church in Monterey Park, where he serves, on Sunday as I do every third Sunday of the month. In both cases, I will preach in English, but someone else will interpret my sermon in Mandarin Chinese.

   I have been studying Mandarin, and my wife Rev. Sally Welch, has suggested, not seriously, that I preach in Mandarin some time. I said that if I did that it would be a very short sermon.

   I need someone to interpret what I say into a language that people present can understand.

   That is also your work, and mine, as disciples of Jesus Christ.

   I preached at a church last Sunday that had the hands of a clock installed over the face of Martin Luther on the wall in the church office where I changed into my robe. I wondered if it was placed there as a piece of kitsch, humorously, with tongue firmly planted in cheek. Or if it was hung there seriously, as an act of piety.

   It made me think about a story about interpreting the time in which we live, possibly apocryphal, in which Martin Luther was visited one day by a member of his congregation. Luther was digging a hole in which to plant an apple tree. The man wanted to talk about the end of history and the coming Final Judgment, and he spoke about his belief that the events of their time (more than 500 years ago) lined up with the prophecies for the last days found in the Bible. And didn’t Luther agree that they were living in the last days.

   “Dr. Luther”, the man asked, “what would you do if you know that the Last Judgement was coming tomorrow?”

   Luther barely hesitated and replied, “I’d plant my apple tree”.

   We are to be prepared for the Second Coming of Christ, the one where he Judges all the people of all time, the one where a new heaven and a new earth will come, but we exist only in the present. Today, our work is to do what God has called, equipped and sent us to do until there is, literally, no tomorrow.

   Jesus was getting closer and closer to Jerusalem, in today’s Gospel reading from Luke, where he would give his life for the sake of the world, and then three days later take it back again and rise from the dead, and he knew that his followers didn’t have a clue about what it all meant.

   As he traveled, more and more people were following him, until a crowd of thousands was trailing along with his 12 disciples.

   But rather than encouraging the crowd, as most people with lots of followers would do, Jesus threw a wet blanket on their excitement.

   That’s the kind of preparation that Jesus is doing, starting with Luke 12:49,

49 “I came to bring fire to the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled!

   We know a lot about fire in Southern California. We used to have a fire season here, but now it’s pretty much fire season all year-round. We see them. We smell them. We’ve cleaned ash off our cars and everything that’s around our homes. We have experienced disastrous fires in Alta Dena and the Palisades this year.

   But fire wears two faces. Brush fires are destructive, but they’re also necessary for our ecology. There are plants here that need the temperature of fire to open their seed pods. Taller shrubs must go to allow for the sun to reach new growth, and fire spreads by proximity to anything that will burn.

   Not too long after we had moved from serving in Compton, California to serve in San Dimas, California, from an urban to a suburban area, I was at our annual synod assembly. I was talking with some people about the differences between ministering in the city and in the suburbs. I said that if a person hears a helicopter in the city their first thought is, “Where’s the crime?” but when one hears a helicopter in the suburbs their first thought is, “Where’s the fire?”

   Like the two faces of fire, the cross will mean the destruction of Jesus, but it will also mean new life for all who abide in him. All that the authorities will intend for Jesus is death, but His death will open the way to new and eternal life.

   The holy fire that gave birth to the Christian Church came on the Day of Pentecost, as in Acts 2:1-4,

2 When the day of Pentecost had come, they were all together in one place. And suddenly from heaven there came a sound like the rush of a violent wind, and it filled the entire house where they were sitting. Divided tongues, as of fire, appeared among them, and a tongue rested on each of them. All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other languages, as the Spirit gave them ability.

   Fire has real power on real things. The Bible says that God’s word is like fire, as God says in Jeremiah 23:29,

29 Is not my word like fire, says the Lord, and like a hammer that breaks a rock in pieces?

   Fire, like God’s word, is transformational. Holy fire, like the Holy Spirt given to birth the Church on the Day of Pentecost, is transformational, Many of us think that Christianity is just about transferring information. It is not. It is about life transformation!

   Jesus is longing for the massive change that He knows is coming like a brush fire. He continues his longing in Luke 12:50,

50 I have a baptism with which to be baptized, and what stress I am under until it is completed!

  What is coming? A baptism. A transformational act of God’s power. It will mean the destruction of the old Adam in us and the gift to us of life and salvation in Jesus Christ.

   A baptism is, in part, an entry rite. It brings transformation from one thing to another. Jesus is about to give his life and take it back again for the sake of all who believe and are baptized into his death. A massive change is coming. But first, Jesus will have to die. And his love for us is such that he longs to carry out that sacrifice.

   I imagine that if anybody in that crowd was connecting the dots right then, it might be occurring to them that, uh, if people treat the Messiah, the Son of God in such a way, how will they treat those of us who believe in Him?

   It might be occurring to them that this is not the road to the success that his followers were coming along for. But Jesus continues in verse 51,

51 Do you think that I have come to bring peace to the earth? No, I tell you, but rather division!

   Now I imagine that the crowd might be slowing down a step as these events were happening.

   The people who first read these words in Luke, however, knew exactly what he was talking about. They were living it.

   The gospels, such as Luke, weren’t written down until the original eyewitnesses were starting to die out. Some scholars think that some of the writers were remembering most clearly the things that the early Christians were experiencing at that time.

   Christians were originally seen as being Jews who believed that the Messiah had come in Jesus Christ. As their numbers grew, however, they became more of a threat to the status quo. They began to be seen not as a small branch of Judaism but as the root of something new and different. They were being expelled from their synagogues and even from their families.

   They were also being seen as a threat to the Roman Empire occupying Israel. The Romans couldn’t care less about what their subjects believed, as long as they believed that everybody else’s beliefs were just as valid as theirs. That kept the peace within their conquered territories, making it unnecessary to pull troops back from the front lines to maintain order. And, after a while, the Romans required everyone to believe that the Roman emperor was also a god in order to create unity of belief among its empire’s diversity.

   Both Jews and Christians believed in only one God. One. And that created a problem for the empire that needed to be dealt with.

   Christians were seen as a bigger problem than the Jews, however. The Romans had a great reverence for their ancestors. Christians were seen as being disloyal to the religion of their ancestors, who were Jewish, and so were more despised and more persecuted.

   Lines were being drawn, and Christians were being forced to choose family and empire over their faith in Jesus Christ or face the consequences. And they did. They died rather than abandon the blessing of the truth in Jesus Christ.

   Some in our culture live by the motto, “Family First.” This was not the life lived by the early Christians. They were persecuted rather than live by that motto. In fact, that life of the early Christians, is the norm for Christians all over the world even today.

   Jesus spells out what being his follower is going to mean in verses 52-53,

52 From now on five in one household will be divided, three against two and two against three; 53 they will be divided: father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against her daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against mother-in-law.”

   If you grew up in or now live in a home in which everyone was a practicing Christian, you are blessed.

   If you have never had to turn away from family or friends and travel a different path because they were pulling you away from Jesus, you are blessed.

   The road that Jesus and his disciples and the thousands of followers with them were on was leading to a dividing line. That line was going to be marked by the cross.

   But our desire to make Jesus serve us, to contribute to our worldly success, and to conform to our view of the world can make it difficult, if not impossible, for us to follow Jesus.

   Are the thousands following Jesus here in this text so blinded by what they expect will be a triumphant Jesus entering Jerusalem, leading a mass revolt against the Romans, and making Israel great again as an independent country in which they, His early followers, would be given positions of power in His new regime and lives of affluence as rewards for their loyalty, that they cannot see where all this is leading for Jesus?

   Jesus marvels at their blindness to what is coming. He continues with the language of division, now pointing out the people’s division from the plans and purposes of God, in verses 54-56,

54 He also said to the crowds, “When you see a cloud rising in the west, you immediately say, ‘It is going to rain’; and so it happens. 55 And when you see the south wind blowing, you say, ‘There will be scorching heat’; and it happens. 56 You hypocrites! You know how to interpret the appearance of earth and sky, but why do you not know how to interpret the present time?

   Why? Why it that hypocrisy? Maybe it has something to do with the line from Bob Dylan’s song “Subterranean Homesick Blues”: “You don’t need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows,” when the Holy Spirit blows wherever it wills, whether we see it or not.

   But are we any different? Do we not expect Jesus to make us healthy, and wealthy, and successful? Do we not also seek to get along, to conform to people’s wishes, to “pick our battles” so as to maintain family and friendship harmony in matters of religion?

   Why do we wonder what God is doing in our present time?

   I read a story a while ago about a Native American man who was visiting his long-time city dwelling friend in New York. They were walking along the streets of Manhattan when he suddenly stopped and stood still.

   “What’s wrong?” said the friend.

   “Nothing,” said the Native American. “Listen.”

   “I don’t hear anything,” said the friend.

   The Native American walked over to a tree planted in a ceramic pot and motioned for his friend to come closer. He lifted a branch and there, they both heard the sound of the cricket.

   Once he could see it, the friend heard it clearly. “How did you hear that?” the friend asked.

   “Watch,” the Native American said, and he reached into his pocket and threw a few coins on the sidewalk.

   People all around them stopped and looked for the money.

   The Native American said, “We hear the things for which we listen.”

   What do we look for? Do we look for God?

   What do we hear? Do we listen for God?

   Seeing is not only believing. Believing gives us the eyes to see.

   What defines us? Is it the living relationship with the one true living God that was won for us at the cross, or is it something more connected to this world?

   St. Paul threw away his status in the eyes of the world to be a persecuted follower of Jesus. His story in the Book of Acts after the Day of Pentecost makes Indiana Jones pale by comparison, and all Paul sought was to magnify Jesus.

   Let us follow Jesus not for the world’s approval, but in order to be separated from it.

   Let us spend our lives on a path with the suffering Christ, who gives us a life that is brand new and forever, through his love for us, on the cross.

   We can know the meaning of current events. Our holy connection to God alone is what leads us to see the big picture and correctly interpret the time.



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